Nov 24, 2013; Detroit, MI, USA; Tampa Bay Buccaneers tackle Demar Dotson (69) attempts to block Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh (90) during the third quarter at Ford Field. Mandatory Credit: Andrew Weber-USA TODAY Sports

Who Would Take Ndamukong Suh in 2014 NFL Draft Trade?


The Detroit Lions, rightly or wrongly, are rumored to be shopping Ndamukong Suh ahead of the 2014 NFL draft.  Which teams, if any, might be the best option?

Houston Texans

The question here is whether the Houston Texans would be willing to move down from #1 to #10.  It was basically eliminate them from the Jadeveon Clowney and Khalil Mack sweepstakes as well as decrease their chances of landing a quarterback of their choosing.  Besides that, they run a predominantly 3-4 defensive scheme.  Suh has played his entire career in a 4-3.  Still, the idea of pairing Suh and J.J. Watt, perhaps the two most dominant defensive linemen in the game together has to intrigue Houston.  A big problem is his $22 million cap number.  Houston has over $12 million in space but that isn’t enough unless they give somebody back in return.  A very interesting idea would be the Lions sending Suh, the 10th pick and perhaps a high pick in 2015 to Houston, and in exchange they get the first overall pick and wide receiver Andre Johnson.  The Pro Bowl receiver has a cap number of over $15 million, which would ease the blow enough for the Texans to get Suh.  They could then possibly replace him with Mike Evans at #10 or get a quarterback and find receiving help in a deep draft class.  Meanwhile Detroit gets that second receiver they want across from Megatron and can use that #1 pick to grab Jadeveon Clowney.

St. Louis Rams

If any team ideally fits Ndamukong Suh, it’s the St. Louis Rams.  Head coach Jeff Fisher has a long history of dealing with big personalities, particularly at defensive tackle like Albert Haynesworth.  Suh would thrive on that front between Robert Quinn and Chris Long.  Unfortunately the Rams don’t have the cap space for such a move.  Their best hope would be to deal Long and his $14 million cap number back to Detroit in a deal similar to Houston.  By that token the Lions retain a tremendous front with Long, Ziggy Ansah and Nick Fairley and then use the #2 pick to grab Sammy Watkins.

Jacksonville Jaguars

As far as scheme fit and available salary cap go, no team makes more sense than the Jacksonville Jaguars.  They currently have the #3 pick in the 2014 NFL draft, run a defense that features numerous 4-3 looks, have a defensive head coach in Gus Bradley and boast over $27 million in cap room.  It’s the cleanest deal that could possibly happen for both the Lions and Jaguars.  Jacksonville gets a ferocious force on the defensive front in Suh that Bradley is looking for and still get the 10th pick to find a quarterback.  Detroit unloads Suh’s huge cap number, his ongoing controversial headaches and still get that high pick for a shot at Clowney and Watkins.

Cleveland Browns

Mike Pettine, the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns could certainly find a place for Ndamukong Suh on his defense.  The team certainly has the money at over $29 million but defensive tackle is not their primary concern.  As much as Suh would help their pass rush, moving back to #10 is not what they have in mind if it isn’t for a large package of extra picks.  Cleveland needs help on offense from quarterback to the offensive line to another wide receiver.  Moving from #4 to #10 drops them out of the window to grab Watkins or top tackles like Jake Matthews and Greg Robinson.  Would they do all of that for a potentially bothersome case like Suh and his hefty cap number?  Doubtful.

Oakland Raiders

Scheme-wise, the Oakland Raiders make a lot of sense.  Dennis Allen runs a scheme that would fit Suh’s talents very well.  Silver and Black fans, unlike some others would welcome the attitude Suh brings to the game.  It might conjure fond memories of Lyle Alzado.  If this trade idea had come up a month ago the Raiders might’ve been able to make it happen.  They hold the #5 pick and had the most salary cap space in the league.  While they still have the former, their once large portion of spending money has shrunk to around $12 million.  That’s not enough to handle Suh’s contract.

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Tags: 2014 Nfl Draft Cleveland Browns Houston Texans Jacksonville Jaguars Ndamukong Suh Oakland Raiders St. Louis Rams

  • Bobby Postma

    I would be ok with that. Have him come to Jacksonville would put our defensive front at the top

    • Erik Lambert

      We’ll see if they pull the trigger.

      • Bobby Postma

        Hope so. I think it would be a smart move

        • Matthew

          are you retarded? do you not understand basic salary cap rationale in today’s nfl? you don’t trade the #3 pick for someone like suh. and no jax will not trade for him.

          • jack_sprat2

            Even elite prospects are only that, prospects. A bird in the hand is only better than two in the bush when that bird isn’t a raptor.

          • Matthew

            not exactly. the #3 pick will make what – $4M per year on a 4-year contract? and while i don’t have the statistics, i would assume #3 overall picks, with the exception of qbs, probably have a fairly high % of being at worst, better than average starting nfl players. so take into consideration some analysts assessment of suh being overrated, would you trade the #3 overall pick outright for suh and pay him over $10M per year? no, you wouldn’t.

            now if you get suh and the #10 and jax’ goal is to move back a little in the first round to take a qb, it makes some level of sense, but only if you think suh is an all-pro and sign a long-term contract. you also have to take into consideration work ethic (blew off voluntary workouts), reputation (terrible) and him being a team player (questionable at best).

  • Dewight Mitchell

    no

    • Erik Lambert

      Why?

      • Dewight Mitchell

        not going to happen

    • Bobby Postma

      I’m kinda curious on why as well

      • Dewight Mitchell

        like i said before no

  • trinity

    Is this seriously a possibility? It can’t be

    • Erik Lambert

      No way to tell for sure but rumors don’t all start out of thin air. These guys get paid too.

      • Matthew

        you pull rumors out of your ass. a) detroit can’t trade away suh because b) no team will give up drafts picks for his cap hit. but you keep conjuring stupid ideas up erik.

        • Erik Lambert

          Have you been drinking, Matt? We’re talking football here, not politics. I did not start this rumor. I’m merely exploring the possibilities.

          • Matthew

            where did politics come from? what constitutes a rumor? we’ve seen fairly regular updates that suh’s agent and the lions are working on a contract extension. are those just rumors?

          • Erik Lambert

            I provided a link as proof. Feel free to click it.

          • Matthew

            call me blind, but i don’t see a link. i googled it, however. do you think the patriots have ever discussed trading tom brady? i do. as a matter of fact, i think every team discusses trade possibilities on all of their players.

          • Erik Lambert

            For whatever reason the link isn’t blue on the page. Click the word “gets” at the bottom of the Houston Texans paragraph.

          • Matthew

            got it. that’s what i came across. it’s fairly shady when the best some dude can come up with is a “source”. is that the janitor at the lions facility?

          • Erik Lambert

            Can’t be sure but I’m just pointing out that I didn’t start the rumor. I merely acknowledged that, for whatever reason, it exists and I might as well explore the possibilities, however far-fetched.

          • Matthew

            fine. i take back my belligerence. i thought you were just making crap up. i suppose it’s your job to play along with what’s out there even if scott bischoff made it up to get his name in the headlines.

          • Erik Lambert

            Thank you, Matt. Feel free to comment on more plausible subjects in the future. I love the debating.

          • jack_sprat2

            That’s how it’s done. These guys have to live in the world, too. It took some 30 years, remember, but “Deep Throat” turned out to be real.

  • Chris Schroeder

    They can’t possibly be serious about trading Suh. When reports like this come out I always remember that a few weeks before the draft there is a lot of BS and a lot of smoke and mirrors. All the GM’s are trying to feel each other up and find out who is taking who and in what round There is no better way to see who a team is going after than to dangle a current talented position player in front of their face and see who nibbles. Just another strategical tactic most likely.

    • Erik Lambert

      Could be but there is at least some merit to the idea. Detroit obviously doesn’t want to give up a ton of draft picks to move up, so in order to do so they need to offer a premium player. Of their big three Suh is the most expendable given his history and cap problem. At the same time he is a Pro Bowler and just 27-years old. He’s arguably the best defensive tackle in football. Any coach would love to have that in their front provided they feel they can control his “eccentricity.” The Lions would still have Nick Fairley in the middle and can put Clowney on the outside, who has the same level of talent as Suh but not as much of a personality problem, at least from a volatile perspective.

      • Matthew

        so why would a team take on suh’s contract and personality vs. drafting clowney, “who has the same level of talent”? as usual, your articles make no sense. i think the lions will also trade for dick butkus and the vikings will trade for joe montana.

        • Erik Lambert

          Because Ndamukong Suh is a dominant player. Cap numbers can be worked around and his personality is something certain coaches can deal with and some can’t. I believe Gus Bradley or Jeff Fisher could handle him just fine. Your ramblings are merely an attempt to get me to snap back at you. Keep trying.

          • Matthew

            you already snapped back at me once, no? :)

          • Erik Lambert

            No.

          • jack_sprat2

            Oh, c’mon, be generous. He so obviously needs this “victory”.

        • B Christopher

          Matthew, this is the NFL, nobody is ever 100% safe. If you can unload 1 player, and with his salary fill 3 needs, as a general manager, wouldn’t it be prudent to do so? Also, if you’re on the other side, and you can absorb that salary, and it fills a major hole, doesn’t that also make prudent sense? Plus, there’s a good chance that the right GM could even get him to restructure or even renegotiate that salary.

    • John Duquette

      I assume you meant to say “All the GM’s are trying to feel each other out” Damn funny although

      • jack_sprat2

        Well, you know what they say about those so-called ‘homophobes’? When following them and their briefcases into men’s rooms, be prepared.

  • Chalie00

    Sh**….goodbye Suh. Not sure why many Lions fans are so high on one guy that’s taking up so much cap space when the defense needs players elsewhere. If they can trade Suh for a higher pick and keep the number 10, I’m sure Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack can make up for Suh’s absence. Draft a Safety in the 2nd round and Detroit’s defense would vastly improve. It’s getting old hanging the franchise on 3 guys (Suh, Stafford and Johnson), it takes a good system and a team of players that can effectively run the system.

    • Erik Lambert

      The problem with their Big Three is they all came in before the new CBA took affect. So their contracts were a burden even before they’d earned them. Trading Suh creates a ton of relief in more ways than one.

      • jack_sprat2

        On the plus side, each of them DID earn them.

        • Erik Lambert

          No question but in this day and age you can only keep a core together so long.

    • jack_sprat2

      Be patient, grasshopper. The Rube Goldberg of OCs has left the building. For some reason, the tutelage of Sean Payton and the bloodlines of the architect of the Power Sweep inspire much more confidence in me in this team.

  • Glenn

    He ain’t going to Oakland. Find another sucker

    • Erik Lambert

      Merely pointing out he’s a scheme fit, Glenn. I wrote very specifically that a move there is unlikely.

  • B Christopher

    NDAMUKONG in Silver & Black! Raider Nation would lay out the welcome mat for this kid. Nothing spells Raider better than N-D-A-M-U-K-O-N-G S-UUUUUUUUUU-H!!!!! We’d have a special head stomping day whenever Manning, Rivers, & Smith come to town. We could hand out little bobble heads in Donkey, Dolt, and Chef uniforms with a big size 17 shoe print on the side of their helmet. You all can picture that, right? or , just maybe, we can have court papers served on all the teams coming to play in the Black Hole that say, “Step Foot into the Black Hole, and we’re gonna Suuuuuh you! Can you imagine The Black Holers screaming SUUUUUUUUUUUUH after every sack? Gives me the chills.

    • Erik Lambert

      Comes down to the money. Can they create the space? It would be tough.

      • B Christopher

        MAKE SPACE!

        • Erik Lambert

          Dennis Allen might be saying that.

          • B Christopher

            If there is the will, there is a way! We need some Al Davis (in his prime) inspirational, looking down from that luxury box in the sky, wisdom to be thrust into some noggins down here!

          • Erik Lambert

            Based on how Davis went and got Richard Seymour, this does seem like a move he’d execute.

  • jack_sprat2

    The cap numbers work for Houston, because it would only add about $6 million or so to their current number. Detroit would have to rejigger Johnson’s contract, though. It would add about $8.5 million, otherwise. So, paying the veteran minimum and working a restructuring bonus for the remaining three years, it’d still add roughly $3.2 million to their 2014 number. As is, they’re about $1.5 million short of signing their old projected allotment. The #1 pick would add several million. They LITERALLY have no one whom they could cut who would even free as much as $2 million in space for 2014. No can do.

  • jack_sprat2

    “It might conjure fond memories of Lyle Alzado.” As contrasted to the bastard love child of Lyle Alzado and Ted Hendricks, who really WOULD be unmanageable.

    • Erik Lambert

      How the Raiders handled those two on the same defense is one of the great coaching jobs in football history.