Andre Ellington RB Clemson Tigers

Andre Ellington Scouting Report RB Clemson Tigers


This is our Andre Ellington scouting report. Clemson has a lot of dynamic offensive players on their team and Ellington might be one of the fastest. For all of our other scouting reports check out our scouting report page.

 

Measurables

5’10 190 pounds

4.45 40 yard dash (projection)

combine results will be posted when they become available

Stats: cfbstats.com

through 12/4/2012

2011:

Rushing
G Att Yards Avg. TD Att/G Yards/G
11 193 937 4.85 9 17.55 85.18
Receiving
G Rec. Yards Avg. TD Rec./G Yards/G
11 20 114 5.70 0 1.8 10.4

2010:

Rushing
G Att Yards Avg. TD Att/G Yards/G
9 117 684 5.85 10 13.00 76.00
Receiving
G Rec. Yards Avg. TD Rec./G Yards/G
9 12 110 9.17 1 1.3 12.2
Kickoff Returns
G Ret. Yards Avg. TD Ret./G Yards/G
9 7 238 34.00 1 0.8 26.4

 

Pros:

He does not have elite Speed, but he’s not going to be caught from behind very often…catches the ball  out of the backfield…has kick return potential and ability….does a better job than you’d expect for a speed back to pick up tough yardage…excels as a one cut runner…

Cons:

Thin in his lower half…ball security could be an issue at the N.F.L level…doesn’t break many tackles…needs to develops a little more patience in his runs..doesn’t have great vision or an exceptional burst to get quickly from the second level to third level…Will have to get a lot of reps on the practice field as a blocker on passing downs…production (yards per carry) as dropped down every year he’s been at Clemson…even though he catches the ball out of the backfield, he drops some easy passes and he doesn’t run great routes, he is not C.J. Spiller….although he doesn’t miss a lot of games because of injuries, he seems to be nicked up with injuries as a lot and as a speed guy that’s not a great trait

Round projection:

4th to 6th

A reader convinced me that I may have had Ellington’s value too low, though I still think he has some issues he should go back to school to work out.

2012 is a deep running back class so if Ellington wants to be drafted higher he should return to school and try to improve his stock during the 2012 College Football Season.

Thoughts

With both C.J. Spiller and Jamie Harper leaving Clemson for the N.F.L. draft over the last two seasons Ellington has had a huge opportunity to take Clemson by storm and beecome a dynamic player, but that hasn’t happened. He’s an undersized and unpolished third down back in the N.F.L. who is an ok run between the tackles kind of guy. Clemson has a lot of talented prospects that are going to be drafted early in the N.F.L. draft I’ve watched them more them quite a few times and am often failed to be impressed by Ellington.

I imagine with his season he could come back and try to improve his draft stock. He still needs to improve in his blitz pickups and blocking and catching the ball out of the backfield because right now he’s an unuseable chance of pace back. Now on the positive Ellington has become much better in between the tackles and he has a lot of potential as a Kick returner as well so there is a place for him in the N.F.L.

Bio:

Has 1,177 yards on 186 carries and 14 touchdowns, 23 catches for 164 yards and a touchdown, and 333 yards on 13 kickoff returns and a touchdown in 23 games (seven starts) in his career…reached 1,000 career rushing yards in just 151 carries, the second-fewest carries needed to reach 1,000 yards in Clemson history; only C.J. Spiller (142) was better…has a 6.3-yard-per-carry figure in his career, best in history among Tigers with at least 1,000 rushing yards…has 16 career touchdowns…2011 Maxwell Award Watch List member in the preseason…2011 Paul Hornung Award Watch List member in the preseason…2011 Doak Walker Watch List member in the preseason…2011 CFPA Running Back Trophy Watch List member and Kick Returner Trophy Watch List member in the preseason…preseason first-team All-ACC by Sporting News…preseason second-team All-ACC by Athlon and Phil Steele…#17 draft-eligible running back in the nation by Phil Steele…first on the team in power index (7.52)…tied for fourth on the team in vertical jump (35.5″).

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  • GoTigers

    Not sure you have followed AE much as your analysis is not dead-on (way off on some things). While he does not have great hands, he is an adequate on swing, flare and underneath routes. His pass blocking is very good and not sure he has missed an assignment/pick-up the entire year in protection. He has an exceptional burst and GREAT vision, when healthy. He has been playing hurt 85% of this year, not complaining or making excuses, just being a football player and do anything he can for his team.

    Do I think he is a 1-2 round RB? No. But, he is a very capable RB that should be able to make it at the next level. I think he should stay and show people like you he is a talented RB so we do agree on that. His biggest problem this year is the lack of any kind of blocking from our offensive line (he still broke 1000 yards with limited games); next year is likely to be the same unfortunately. We’re two years, at least, from having a line that can produce a great RB.

  • ancyent fathoms

    This is comedy right? – It must be.

    Just what kind of metrics are you using to determine a “6th or 7th round” selection? – Just curious because some people use historical precedent to, sort-of, frame the general rounds based particularly upon position specific ranking.

    Are you basing this on … how do I describe it … people sometimes arbitrarily assign a random “round,” as a grade, based upon a certain feeling they get during the analysis process. It’s more based upon emotion than actual ranking or relevancy.

    Sort-of like, when you watch a QB candidate who tosses up some INTs and perhaps their passes float or sail a bit, or they have less than ideal measurables – instead of just cross correlating all the candidates at that position and ranking them position specific, folks say things like … “oh, he’s worth a late round flyer 5th or 6th round.”

    It’s funny – I can’t quite describe it, words fail me. What I just wrote doesn’t really hit on it. It’s more a sense of someone using the rounds as description of the player’s ability, rather than just ranking each candidate by skills.

    It’s hard to pinpoint.

    And they toss that cliche out there without fully taking into consideration the general draft history or even quite grasping the aspect of tools / skillset of the candidates. Sometimes “analysts” (draftniks) get too caught-up in production or numbers and lose sight of the true representation of the player – the skills and/or tools.

    To quote: “He does not have elite Speed” – This is very much off. It might be so in your observation, through your lens, but to me, Ellington out runs Wilson and in some ways covers more ground than Pead.

    I’d say that Pead is quicker in short radius burst, than both. And I’d say that Wilson has good top-end speed, deceptive speed – when he can get up to gear. But Wilson starts slow, not very quick.

    Ellington covers ground moreso than each of those guys, because he has an elongated stride, that reach out and grabs the turf in front of him. There’s not foreshortening of his legs when running.

    Pead and Wilson are much more “choppier” in their strides.

    Ellington breaks off and runs away from defenders moreso than Wilson. And’s it’s clearly visible that Ellington has longer legs and a longer stride than Wilson.

  • ancyent fathoms

    cont:

    You see, Ellington can cover ground even if his top-end speed is not as pronounced as say a Jeff Demps.

    But as you know, Jeff Demps is rather diminutive and doesn’t bounce off 1st contact. Demps is situational, therefore his ranking reflects that of a more well-rounded back.

    Ellington can “gear-up” just as well as anyone in the ACC, sans maybe L. Miller. And Miler has a size and bulk advantage to Ellington.

    And if comparing Ellington to Pead, again I see that Pead has “choppier strides,” albeit quick and with authority. I’d say that Pead enjoys contact moreso than Ellington and Pead has more power between the tackles.

    Ellington can work well with a zone stretch team – Washington, Tennessee, Carolina, Seattle, etc.

    You see, speed is subjective in many ways. I see quite a bit of speed with Ellington. As showcased during the Maryland game this year as well as against VT. Both games he made explosive jump cuts, lateral cuts and took off with no one able to catch him.

    So to get back to the bigger point about ranking the board, per position and then a general big board. For you to give a “6th or 7th round” grade would mean in real language that you have 173 other players that you would select before Andre Ellington, at the very least.

    The 6th round starts at selection #174 and the 7th round starts at selection #210. There’s a whole heap of guys you would have to prefer over Ellington, to say he’s a “6th or 7th round” candidate.

    And as you know, there were 24 RBs taken in the 2011 draft. Of those, 8 RBs were drafted in rounds 1 through 3.

    Beyond that, in nearly the antithesis of the 2011 RB class, you have the 2010 class that only had 13 RBs drafted. And yet, the top 7 went in the 1st and 2nd round alone.

  • ancyent fathoms

    So, in making a board of the top 5 RBs or the top 10 RBs – who do you have ahead of Ellington?

    I think it’s easy to note:

    - Richardson

    - Miller

    - Pead

    - Wilson

    (If Lattimore were not injured)

    Maybe I can see Martin, but that’s kind-of subjective. It’s around here, things get kind-of muddied. I mean is Martin a better back? – He’s different, with different skillset, but I don’t know about better.

    Martin is good after 1st contact, more physical. But Ellington I think is more slipstream, has better top-end speed and breakaway ability.

    Ball? I don’t think so.

    Heck, even Wilson doesn’t have the same stride or speed of Ellington.

    Pierce? – He’s a different back, more power, bigger physique, etc.

    So, if you have Ellington anywhere near 7 or 8 on your total board of eligible RBs, chances are he’s gone by the 3rd round.

  • ancyent fathoms

    cont:

    And the simple truth of the matter is that there are few guys already at the RB position in this draft which combine the build and speed and cuts and vision that AE has displayed. When healthy, he’s showed crazy lateral cuts and good peripheral vision.

    Like the man said above, his vision extends to 90* degrees around him, he’s left some dudes walking in perpetual twilight zone to some of his cuts.

    As far as your knock on him about being “thin in the lower half,” his legs look very powerful, runners legs. I don’t care if he’s slender or just 190 lbs – he’s got legs that can churn and produce torque. That’s why he runs away from guys.

    You also mention about a “lack of burst” – Again, his first steps toward the LOS is quicker than Wilson’s. Ellington might not be as “quick” as Pead or Martin, but neither of those guys can extend their legs like a thoroughbred.

    He’s an underclassman who ranks well with the seniors of this class. As hard as it is to prognosticate the future development of a player, it’s easy to see that when he’s right he’s explosive and can be a quick home run hitter. He might develop even more physical skills as he matures. He, just as Miller, are both going to be drafted because their tools and skillset stand out.

    It’s kind-of like, Montee Ball has great individual numbers behind a very good Wisconsin o-line, yet comparing Ball’s tools to Ellington, it’s much easier to see the fluidity and quickness and higher top-end speed from Ellington.

    So in ranking a board, I’ve got Ellington as high as #5 and as low as #8.

    I can’t put Poole or Pierce or Demps or Herron or Hillman ahead of him. I waiver possibly with L. James, but even there (just as with Demps) James is not nearly as physical as Ellington. So …

    He’s just too athletic to wait for.

    • http://NFLmocks.com Jesse Bartolis

      You could definitely be right and he could move up. I’m worried about ball security with him and his ability to stay healthy. You could be right about his value though and maybe it is 4th to 5th and I was thinking less running backs would be drafted. I moved up his round projection, but for now I’ll stick with my view of him. It’s not like I said bad things about him he’s versatile and dynamic (I said doesn’t have elite speed, but won’t get caught from behind very often), but he has to improve a lot to be the complementary back he’s going to be at the N.F.L. level in my humble opinion.

      http://nflmocks.com/2011/06/06/top-30-running-back-prospects-for-the-2012-nfl-draft/

  • ancyent fathoms

    Andre Ellington – Orange Bowl – Boom …