Patrick Peterson- 2011 Draft Scouting Report

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LSU corner Patrick Peterson just might be the most overrated player at any position in this year’s draft class. I have always taken a lot of heat for my opinion of Peterson, but hear me out.

NFL Traits

Physical Ability

Peterson is one of the most physically gifted corners I have ever seen. He is really tall (6’1), he has a whole lot of bulk (maybe even too much at 212lbs), and he is extremely fast (4.42 40 yard dash). He is an extremely fluid athlete, and he possesses natural change of direction skills that allow him to cover even the best of route runners. He also is has extremely long arms that allow him to deflect a lot of passes. He also is a very good tackler and solid run stopper.

Statistical Production

Peterson has pretty good numbers in his career at LSU. He has a fair amount of tackles for a corner (52 sophomore year, 42 junior year), he usually has decent interception numbers, and he deflects some passes.

In 2010, Peterson has done a great job of returning kicks and punts. It looks like, as a kick and punt returner he is near Josh Cribbs’ level: 165 yards on 10 punt returns for an astounding 16.5 yards per return (3rd in the FBS of guys with 7 returns), and 151 yards on 5 returns for a great 30.2 yards per return (6th in the FBS of guys with 5 returns). It’s a nice bit of versatility to his game.

Intangibles

Peterson plays with above average on field intensity. He is a somewhat physical tackler, he has solid strength, and he has decent mental toughness. But oddly, he showed up at LSU’s spring practice this offseason at 222lbs. That is probably a little too much weight for a corner.

CB Specific Traits

Ball Skills

Peterson has natural ball skills. He has excellent hands, long arms and unbelievable athleticism that allows him to tip almost any pass that comes in his direction. He also possesses good upper body strength for ripping passes out of receivers hands.

Instincts/Coverage Skills

Peterson is consistently out of position in coverage. He lacks instincts, and sometimes it seems like he just doesn’t know plays. He is usually overaggressive in coverage and he struggles to commit to his zone in pass plays and play actions. He also commits a whole lot of pass interference penalties after he gets beat.

Peterson’s main issue is a complete lack of cover skills. He possesses pretty bad route recognition skills. He is very bad at anticipating slants routes, and he frequently loses focus on his man. He often gives receivers too much of a cushion and he is very susceptible to being fooled by head fakes and breaks in routes.

I am sure many of my readers read the validity in “yards allowed,” article I wrote today. If you are reading this and you haven’t read that article, don’t write me off quite yet. Read the article. The statistic appears valid, and it really makes Patrick Peterson look bad. I know people are going to doubt the statistic, and say that corners too often line up on one side of the field, but try to remember the fact that coaches are going to want a real dominant corner on a real dominant player.  For example, if you are Urban Meyer (or, I guess Will Muschamp), and you are facing Georgia, you are going to want a corner as dominant as Janoris Jenkins matched up against A.J. Green as much as possible, and your second corner, sophomore Jeremy Brown, matched up against Green as little as possible. If you watched the Florida Georgia game closely, you would clearly see that Jenkins never leaves Green. He gets and interception off of him and holds him to a mere 42 yards, his worst game of the season. Without watching the game, should I even have to ask my readers if they are going to contest the idea that Jeremy Brown played a large role in stopping Green? I don’t think so. It was clear that Jenkins was matched up against Green, and using that game in Jenkins’ favor is completely valid. Now, if a coach has two corners that are practically interchangeable, such as Virginia’s Ras-I Dowling and Chase Minnifield, then the statistic is invalid. Each corner will match up against the number one receiver at different parts of the game. But let’s be honest; take the Alabama LSU game for example. Les Miles would eat grass before he let true sophomore Morris Claiborne line up against Julio Jones when he has Patrick Peterson on the roster (okay, that was a bad example). But still, there is no way he would let Claiborne line up against Jones if he can make Jones line up against Peterson. Julio Jones got 89 yards in the game. For the sake of proving my point, after I wrote this article, I watched the game. I used KC Joyner’s sabermetrics of figuring how many yards Peterson allowed and how many yards he gave up per throw, and watched every ball Greg McElroy threw. Julio Jones had 6 of his 9 catches against Peterson (he had 10 catches on the game, but one was while Peterson was on the sideline, taking a one play breather), for 52 yards, and Peterson also allowed a 37 catch to Marquis Maze in the game (Technically, the catch didn’t count. Peterson did a blatant pass interference on Maze, pulling his right arm around his back, and the officials ruled he made a one-handed catch, but when the play was reviewed, they ruled it wasn’t a catch. Peterson still got a 15 yard pass interference penalty called against him, but at the NFL level, that’s a 37 yard penalty. Considering I’m evaluating him for the NFL, I’m considering that a 37 yard catch). So let’s add that up; 37 yards for Maze, 52 for Jones… that’s 89 yards! Coincidentally, the exact number the stat counted against him. That stat isn’t usually going to be that perfect, but I think it is good enough to be considered valid. Not only did he allow 89 yards, but McElroy also completed 7/9 passes he threw toward Peterson for those 89 yards (and one of the misses was a pretty bad throw to Jones). Peterson allowed 9.9 yards per ball thrown toward him. Greg McElroy got 9.35 yards per ball he threw on the season. His quarterback rating against Peterson? 144.9. His quarterback rating during the season? 114.2. Not good for Peterson. Miles did try to make sure that Peterson was lined up against Jones as much as possible. Jones still got yards. It was Peterson’s fault that he did.

Conclusion

Overall, when I think of Peterson, I think of a corner who can’t cover. He really has a lot of flaws in his coverage skills that will hinder his production in the NFL. I really don’t care how physically gifted he is; if he doesn’t produce, he’s worthless.

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Grade: 90 (late first round)

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Projection: 98 (top 6)

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  • Is this serious?

    I’m sorry, but this article only proves the ignorance of yourself and other female journalists who consider themselves “experts” on football. It’s comforting to know you realize your in the minority on this opinion, because many that actually have played, coached, or even watched the game are disagreeing with you now. First off, did you care to watch any of Peterson’s game footage from last year? Thought not. Spoiler alert, he completely shut down Julio Jones and AJ Green. Now on to this year, you provide an example of ONE game vs. a dominant sure-fire frist round pick. Not to mention, all you give is a statistical analysis. Most of the throws from GMAC to JJ were nearly perfect passes, Peterson was step for step with the reciever all times and made instant tackles to prevent YAC. As a coach and a scout, that’s exactly what you want to see if the player can’t break up the pass. On to the TD to Julio, Peterson had great outside coverage but had no inside help from an LB or safety, which made for a fairly easy pitch and catch. So in your only argument against Peterson, where he had a decent showing in one game against a sure-fire 1st rounder and you’re ready to dismiss him? Picks 1-5 are presently laughing at your “analysis” of “OMG a football match!? Are the Yankees playing” and wondering how the hell a woman was ever allowed to find a computer. Good day.

    • http://NFLmocks.com Jesse Bartolis

      “Peterson is consistently out of position in coverage. He lacks instincts, and sometimes it seems like he just doesn’t know plays. He is usually overaggressive in coverage and he struggles to commit to his zone in pass plays and play actions. He also commits a whole lot of pass interference penalties after he gets beat.”

      That’s not a statistical analysis…Anyway the author didn’t say that Patrick Peterson is a bad prospect, just not the best CB in the draft and Maybe he’ll be right and maybe not there have been plenty of players who were thought to be tremendous players who don’t pan out quite the way people expected them too. The author also still thinks Peterson is a first round with elite ahtletic ability, but that he is not as technically refined as one would like to see.

      But everyone is entiteld to their own opinion and you’re the only one who comes off as ignorant with statements like “I’m sorry, but this article only proves the ignorance of yourself and other female journalists who consider themselves “experts” on football”.

      The author of the article is not a woman. B) it is ignorant to iimply that women can’t understand the game of football or form their own opinions based on what they see and that they could be right.

      I happen to think Peterson is a pretty impressive prospect, but there’s no such thing as a gurantee in the N.F.L.

    • http://player-rater.blogspot.com Mackenzie Pantoja

      Man, I watch more games than you could ever imagine. I take a lot of offense to that. My scouting notes are featured regularly on a feature called scout’s Eye on this site.

      https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AXqtfFqI6uIbZGNmY2o2aHhfMGdmbTcyNWM1&hl=en

      I have 3 TiVo’s and ESPN3.com. I see about 300 games a year. I watch games. I’ll admit, I can’t, and I never will play (4’11), but I watch, and, in order to improve my scouting abilities, I ordered 17 football books over the summer to improve my knowledge of the game. To name a few:

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1585184144

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1585187690

    • http://player-rater.blogspot.com Mackenzie Pantoja

      Also, it’s not just one game. If it was, I am an idiot. But check this out. http://nflmocks.com/2011/02/26/the-validity-in-the-yards-allowed-statistic-for-corners/

      The results:

      https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AfcHkEeQw6xuZGNmNzJkbjhfMWhocWR2aGdw&hl=en

      Just for the record, I am a dude. I am 4’11 and I can’t/never played, but I am a dude. Not that it should mean anything. Also, I know I used so statistical analysis, but without it, I wouldn’t have any evidence. I make opinions and use stats to prove I am right. Without the stats, I don’t have a case. Again, I watch more film than you could ever imagine. About as much film that an amateur. I mean, you saw my scouting notes in that last comment. You think those are made up? Please. Again, I know I am a minority, but I was never impressed by Peterson.

      • http://bleacherreport.com/users/469592-jake-d Jake D.

        I think you are underestimating Peterson. You said yourself that he has “a fair amount of tackles for a corner.”

        As this guy (who I agree is ignorant) stated, that’s because he drops guys after the catch. Even Revis and Asamougha are out of position and don’t defend every single pass, every time. Peterson is a very instinctive player. He may not have natural covering abilities but he his consistently there to make the tackle and can stay with receivers step for step.

        If a team like the Browns take him (and if he falls they will) they’re not going to have to worry about putting him on an opposing team’s best receiver.

        If Peterson isn’t the best CB in the draft I’d challenge you to tell me who is. It isn’t Amukamara, who is even bigger than Peterson, not nearly as freakishly athletic, and gets jammed at the line too easily.

        If you disagree with my analysis, fine. You seem to understand that people disagree with you as well. Every NFL Scout is saying Peterson is the next Champ Bailey. We’ll just have to wait and see, but I wouldn’t by any stretch of the imagination say Peterson is a late first round pick.

        • http://bleacherreport.com/users/469592-jake-d Jake D.

          Hall of Famer Deion Sanders couldn’t find anything wrong with Peterson’s game except when he said, “I’d like to see him a little quicker—took too many steps to get to a certain point.”

          Sanders went on to say “…he did nothing to persuade me not to think of him as the No. 1.”

          Further, Chris Low of ESPN called him the “most explosive athlete he has seen in the SEC since Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson.”

          Yes, THE Bo Jackson.

          There’s reasons why plenty of expert get paid big dollars. I’m not trying to embarrass you, but when arguably the best corner in the history of the game can’t say anything bad about him, it’s time to get on the bandwagon.

        • Mackenzie pantoja

          Honestly, when it comes to Peterson, it’s not as much about the yards allowed by Peterson as much as the success rate against. I would rather have a corner that is targeted 40 times a game and allows 10 catches than a corner that is targeted 8 times a game and allows 7 catches. This is my issue with Peterson. He rarely is thrown on, but the success rate is awful

  • sayrebedinger

    “Overall, when I think of Peterson, I think of a corner who can’t cover. He really has a lot of flaws in his coverage skills that will hinder his production in the NFL. I really don’t care how physically gifted he is; if he doesn’t produce, he’s worthless.”

    Wow, definitely don’t agree with any of this whatsoever.

    • http://player-rater.blogspot.com Mackenzie Pantoja

      I expected that. But I never liked what I saw from Peterson.

  • Royce

    I responded on your blog before….Dude, your are creating a monster…lol You are one of those “against the hype” people aren’t you. for instance, your are adding up 37 and 52 yards against Maze and Jones; a pass interfernce in college FB is 15 yards not the length of the pass so thats 22 YARDS!+52= 74 yards. If you look at NFL caliber reciever averages most of the All-time greats DO NOT average 100 yards reciving a game for a career, only greats such as Jerry Rice and Don Hudson at points in their Pro Career’s have had that distinction. Anyway You talking up Janoris Jenkins now I see 1st it was Harris, and the Virginia corner…Now Jenkins, I guess Brandon Harris has let you down? Well did you see how every big catch that LSU made against Florida was agianst Jenkins Terrence Toliver ate his lunch (oh and Jenkins lunch two)It was probably 2nd best performance of the season. Look up your yards against stat on that one. My point is that EVERY CORNER Pro or College has BAD GAMES sometimes against the great WR’s sometimes against the average ones. their overall performances throughout the year is how they are measured, you just need to look at that as your measuring stick, and stop trying to be “the against the grain young guy”, because that makes you seem like you don’t know what you are talking about.

    • http://player-rater.blogspot.com Mackenzie Pantoja

      I didn’t watch just one game. I watched several. Look at my notes above. I scout 7 guys on the LSU defense alone. Do you expect me to get the exact amount of yards each receiver got against each corner for every game? No. I just can’t do that. I watch as many games as possible. But I couldn’t run those numbers for every game. Also, you mentioned the Alabama game. I know every player has a bad game. That paragraph is more so used to gauge the validity of the stat I use to help my corner evaluation. Not to hurt Peterson. He had other bad games.

      • Royce

        Peterson gave up 1 touchdown all season that is 1 TD in 14 games. We have spoken before, and you have admitted that you have only seen some of his nationally broadcast games, you have made judgment on his game against Penn St. On a muddy field, and a game against the most physically gifted Wr. In the draft. Yet, you talk up Jenkins,Harris,Smith, and the corner from U.Va. Like they have had shutdown seasons.I’ve watched all those guys and every single thing you have implied that Peterson lacks can and is apparent in each one of those guys games. I agree that Peterson isn’t much of a zone guy, but that is not l LSU’s system they use zones as a confusion tool. Each of Peterson’s coaches say that he is the best corner they have coached, and they have all put probowlers in the league at the cornerback position. And, Peterson’s game against Jones was not a bad game for a corner. Especially against wideouts that are as gifted as bama’s. The guy had 5 catches completed on him while in man one in zone coverage. You throw out all these stays about wr’s having 68 yards in a game, since when has gaining 68 yards in a game make you a game changer? The marker has always been 80 + yards or more, and everyone on those named did not have Peterson man up on them the entire game. So where is the validity of this stat?

        • Royce

          Correction that’s 1 touchdown in 13 games. I don’t want to make it seem like I think he’s super human or something.

        • http://player-rater.blogspot.com Mackenzie Pantoja

          The stat: http://nflmocks.com/2011/02/26/the-validity-in-the-yards-allowed-statistic-for-corners/

          Also, I don’t have a positive opinion on the UVA corner Ras-I-Dowling. I don’t know where you got that from. I never did. But I do have a positive opinion of the Virginia Tech corner Rashad Carmichael, as well as Texas’ Aaron Williams.

          Regarding that Alabama game, that’s just not true. He allowed 52 yards on Jones and a blatant 37 yard pass interference on Maze (I know it’s a 15 yard penalty in college, but, since I am evaluating him for the NFL, that will go down as a 37 yard penalty)

          Another thing I want to mention; it’s not all about the amount of yards he allows, but the completion percentage against him is important too. He allows a mediocre amount of yards for a first round corner, which isn’t horrible, but every pass thrown in his direction is ALWAYS completed. Personally, I’d prefer a corner that allows 83 yards on 6 catches but 18 balls are thrown toward him (therefore he is responsible for 12 incompletions) to a corner that allows 55 yards on 5 completions on 5 balls thrown toward him. The latter is Peterson.

          If you look at my notes in the link above, it’s obvious I have seen plenty of games. I never liked Peterson.

          • Royce

            Passes are always completed against him when thrown his way? Are you truly scouting or being bias for no reason, just preference? I guess you aren’t watching games because Peterson had several PB’s in that game and he had shout outs in several games this season. I guess you really don’t know what you are talking about judging bye your last reply. Aaron Williams was the worst of the top rated corners this year, and Vtech’s corner wasn’t even top 3 in his own conference at the position. You must be playing video games or something to scout these guys because its really odd that you would say when ever Peterson is targeted he ALWAYS gives up the catch. I guess he didn’t have any ints this year, that’s odd with the gifts he has for the position.

          • http://NFLmocks.com Jesse Bartolis

            I recieved Mackenzie’s big board which has Peterson ranked 14th overall on it. Mackenzie doesn’t think Peterson is not worth a first round pick or not a talented prospect, overrated could just mean not worthy of a top five pick or not the best player in the draft. Overrated can still me talented, good, productive, and has a bright future.

            Also, I’ve seen that criticsm about Peterson in other places…that he gives up too many catches for his talent.

            Peterson is very talented he’s being talked about like the best CB prospect ever, which I think is quite an overstatement. He’s clearly better than the prospects of the past few years with his talent and I like him as well as a prospect, but do I think he should be a lock for a top 3 pick?

            No. I do not either think that it would be a tragedy if he fell out of the top three.

          • http://player-rater.blogspot.com Mackenzie Pantoja

            I have already given a link to my notes above. It’s obvious that I watch games. Carmichael had nagging injuries this year but dominated in 2009. I don’t know how you exactly plan to contend that a corner who played in the big 12 and played on a team with the #1 pass defense in the FBS despite an awful supporting cast is overrated. I still had to watch him on film, but, with the top pass defense in the FBS and the fact that he played in a pass first conference, it’s all but impossible for him to be overrated. I am still watching the games.

          • Royce

            Ok, lets start with your wonderful notes. You say that you could have tabbed him with giving up 81.4 yards a game if you had included the UNC game. WHERE IS YOUR SO CALLED SCOUTING? Peterson had 3 catches completed on him the entire game. the longest was for a 12 yard fade for a 1st down on the first drive of the game. Jheranie Boyd had all the big plays for UNC and none of them were near Peterson. Boyd’s 1st big play was against a busted zone, with Tyrann Mathieu a freshman corner lined up over him and the strong safety taking a bad angle due to play action. His second big play in the game came against snd year corner Morris Claiborne, who obviously under estimated Boyd’s speed and was beat deep for the touchdown. LSU had taken their starters out and the end of the 1st half and hadn’t put them back in till roughly the end of the 3rd quater, because of a 30-10 lead at halftime. So, how are you scouting without seeing what’s happening on the field?

            Back to Jones, I recall saying, that Jones had 5 catches against Peterson in man coverage, and one in zone (which isn’t really on the corner, but the Qb beating the defense’s design) Jones had 3 catches running shallow routes 2 shallow cross routes where the corners are taught to shadow the Wr and not get to aggressive because of a possible shake or take off route. As soon as Jones caught passes on those routes Peterson pute him on the turf. The one big play pass he caught before his touchdown, was an outside shoulder throw that was perfectly placed by the Qb, and could not be defensed by Deion Sanders or Champ Bailey on the play.

            As for the play vs. Maze, I guess Jenkins, Prince, A. Williams, J. Smith, or CarMichael did not have a pass interference call made against them all season long. So, go ahead and add up all of ther penalty yards also. As I recalled Peterson had 2 or 3 pass interference calls all season. Also, as a Db, coaches teach that if you are beat to take the penalty, it is better than giving up the score. Its just like not givingup an easy lay up in basketball, it should not happen. But my reasoning is why fault a guy for making a team play? As I have staed before, you seem to have an odd bias agaisnt the guy, and appearently do not truly study the game or the film you claim to be studying, To say you could put 81 yards against Peterson as a season average is crazy. Peterson pitched shoutouts in 3 games this season, several games where he allowed one or two catches, and gave up one TD all season long. Jones is a top ten talent and he truly only had 5 catches manned up against Peterson. Where as in there 1st two meetings before that he had 1 and 3 repectively. Against A.J. Green I believe it was 3 and 4 (they did not) play last season with the biggest play from either one of them prior to this past season being a 15 yard pushoff green had that even with the pushoff Peterson was still on his hip and immediately pushing him out of bounds.

            So, for you seem to be saying is based on stats that you read for games and then assuming that because the number one reciever for those games stat wise made plays, that Peterson had to be matched up on that guy? becuase you obviously did that for the UNC game, the game agaisnt Georgia last year, (I know that you remeber our conversation about Green’s 27 yard catch) And finally, Texas defense sucked and they would have given up even more yards if their offense didn’t suck more. and caused the to defend short feilds at times. TCU’s defense was the the top rated defense in the FBS, and I’m sorry, but college rankings are valid to a point. Its the level of competion that speaks when it comes to numbers in my opinion. Look at how many TD’s Texas gave up, and tell me they were as good as their ranking defensivly.Their record is the true indicator of how they played as a team.

          • http://player-rater.blogspot.com Mackenzie Pantoja
          • Royce

            Here’s a youtube link for the LSU-BAMA game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f1CoO9HZyg . like i said look at the tape watch Peterson # 7 make sure you see the jersey number, not where you think here is, look at how many times Bama’s qb had to look of Jones because peterson jammed him at the line, look at ho many times the qb looked him off because of great coverage.

          • Royce

            also Peterson gave up 52 yards in the game not 89 you can not give penalty yards as yards gained, so stop trying to…lol A average to good receiver will average at least 11 to 12 yards a catch, great ones average 15 or more yards a catch. Even with your crazy penalty reasoning Peterson gave up 8.9 a play, without 8.6 a play. Now anyone that nows football and how passing averages work will know that Peterson had a great game matching up against two pretty talented wideouts. to average 8.6 against Peterson was not a great game in the on on one match up vs Peterson. The only way you can say jones came out on top is because of his first td in 3 years against peterson which came in a off cover 3 zone look. I’d say the play call made it an easy effort, Who calls that coverage inside the 10 yard line anyway??? Personally, I think Peterson had Green’s and Jones’s number through out their collegiate careers.

          • Royce

            Dude you are all over the place with this….”Patrick Peterson #7 good height excellent bulk solid speed stats suggest he is outstanding in coverage but he has poor hands solid tackle numbers too aggressive in coverage doesn’t know all the plays suggest mediocre work ethic not great reaction speed really overrated poor in coverage when he stays with a receiver he is very good in coverage but he gets burned a whole lot very poor hands seems lucky and overrated really long arms can make the great play but seemingly misses the easy his awesome potential yet average production must drive coaches crazy really physical inconsistent got away with a long pass interference pass interference prone often out of position overrated can be overaggressive in coverage can be fooled easily with head fakes and deceptive footwork excellent tackler frequently loses focus on man very physical gives receiver big cushion very poor route recognition skills prone to pass interference penalties good tackler
            add this to scouting report: constantly out of position amazing athletic ability gives receivers too much of a cushion average route recognition skills dominant in 2010 gives up the inside route way too easily had pass interference very physical gives receivers no cushion poor awareness of the ball awful route recognition skills poor instincts poor tackler average strength”…you are contradicting yourself through out your “notes” you even said he has “poor hands”…lol I have never seen Peterson drop one pass that has touched his hands. reader says “wha?”
            one spot he’s a solid tackler, than he’s a poor tackler…c’mon man.

          • http://NFLmocks.com Jesse Bartolis

            The notes are fluid- and change from game to game those are different observations across different games, they aren’t structured great though.

            I already mentioned that Petereson, on Mackenzie’s big board that he submitted , is still a top 15 player.

            Mackenzie does not believe Peterson is a bad player, in fact he think he’s a good 1st round player who might be a touch overrated. He’s not calling him a potential bust.

            just to clarify: do you think it’s a crime that someone doesn’t think Peterson is the greatest CB prospect ever or something? A Top 15 ranking is still a highly thought of player.

          • Royce

            Who cares what pick he is, clubs draft by need and importance when building a team. Any team in the top 4 really should not even be considering a corner as their pick. Teams picking that high have to fill more important holes on both sides of the ball. But, to say that there is a corner on his board that rates higher tha Peterson is a sad case og scouting, period. Prince is the only guy I have seen that comes even close, but he doesn’t have the speed nor does B. Harris. A. Williams, J. Smith, and Ras-I lack the hips to make transition movement…they all like Peterson may wind up at the safety position in the future. If Peterson losses 10-15 pounds like he did during the regular season (his playing weight was at 207 lbs). last year, he’s fine. The BIGGEST difference he has from all those guys, is he has every tool a corner needs.

            I know you understand this and MacKenzie’s still learning things about scouting. But, instead of letting him post crazy things like this, give him some guidence on what to look for from position to position.

          • http://NFLmocks.com Jesse Bartolis

            I appreciate the comments and discussion.

            I’m with you 100 percent on the CB’s in the top three or four.

            Amukamara is the only CB ahead of Peterson in Mackenzie’s rankings.

            The thing I love most about the N.F.L. draft and everything of that nature is that there is such a wide disparity of differences in players.

            I will keep everything that is posted on this site and organize it right when we transition to the 2012 draft as an archive so we can see how things turnout and how smart/dumb everyone looks in the future.

          • Royce

            The fact is the sraft is about tools and production at least over a 2 year period. He has prince rated higher, because he can not put Peterson no.1 since he’s down playing his abilities. The fact is head to head Peterson and Prince are separated by pure athleticism. The combine illustrated just that. Prince did have a better broad jump as far as I can recall. But as far as 40 time, cone drills, and vertical; it was Peterson all the way. And as far as his yard stat, Prince was burned far more times that Peterson was all season, both long and short. Finally, he says that Peterson has I know that Prince did not have 1 interception the entire season, and yes he hand opportunities to get them. They are both gym rats. that work hard at the drills needed for the position, and are known to be first in and last out of the gym guys. NEITHER HAS EVER BEEN QUOTED TO HAVE POOR WORK ETHICS. Anyway, I like both guys, they are as good as you can get for college level corners. They will truly learn the game on the next level. Thats the way it works. you get better with time, no one has it figured out at the age of 21-22. And, as far ast tool for the position, the scout love them both. Peterson just has the upper hand, he is blessed with a little bit more.

  • Royce

    Honestly dude, look at all of Peterson’s games against Julio Jones, and tell me how well Julio faired when Peterson was covering hin in MAN to MAN coverage over their 3 years in college. Julio is obviously the most physically gifted reciever (We thought it was Green, but the workouts showed us otherwise, Green just has better ball skills.) Hell, look at what he did against Green also. I really do not think you understand when the defense is in zones or man. Yes, peterson has trouble in zone, because he wants to make a play and get too aggresive at times. But, in man coverage he’s far better than you have stated. He’s not a cover 2 corner, a man press beast. Those are the true corners that dominate the league. I’d rather that type of corner than one that needs to fit a zone scheme to prosper in the league. Peterson’s back pedal is fluid, his speed is upper class, he has open loose hips to change direction, and and the size/quickness to cover the X, Y, and Z wideouts in the league. In order to know what to look for in a corner, you need more than one bad game a year to say “oh he’s not that good” the season before last you used the Bowl game agaisnt Penn. St., now you use the game agaisnt Jones. Every top corner has one to two games a year where they do not look good, even in the pros. Understand that and learn from it. Oh, and look at the number’s on the jerseys, on your old blog you gave Peterson the blame for plays where he was not even on the feild.

  • Royce

    Here’s some NFL scouting videos posted today, not to brag, but they are basically saying the samethings that I came up with about the guys outside of Peterson and Prince.

    Aaron Williams

    How the NFL scouts call it

  • Royce
  • Michael

    The WRITER of this article has NO CLUE what scouting is.?.?.? Whoever “Royce” is has MORE sense of talent evalutation. Mackenzie obviously does not scout he/she seems to make assumptions,” like his validity in yards” link. I mean how can you be scouting a player, and not account for that player only while scouting. Who cares how many players you scouted in one game. You have to scout one guy at a time, there is no excuse for making a claim with what you think happened. I hope you guys are not paying this writer, because he sucks. I’m from SEC country, and as much as I despise the enemy, NONE of theteams in the best conference in the country has ever had a dominant game against Peterson, they may have won battles, but did not win the war. :(

    • http://NFLmocks.com Jesse Bartolis

      We didn’t delete any of your posts, it’s the way the new comment system is set up which is in a beta test. The backend still show, all the comments.

      But I disagree with your assessment, Peterson struggled in coverage often throughout the year, especially early in the year, he got torched by the Giants as well for just one other example. He was terrific as a return man, but has work to do in his coverage.

      Mackenzie wrote that Peterson’s coverage ability and instincts were over-rated but still had him as the 14th best prospect in the draft last year, that’s not a huge knock to be regarded as a top 15 prospect, he just didn’t think he was quite the prospect that everyone else made him out to be.

      • http://www.facebook.com/royce.tasker Royce Tasker

        Now do you see what I was saying from day one? The guy is now considered the best corner in the league, by many analyst and even hall of fame inductees..

  • Royce Tasker

    LOL I’m BAAACCCKKKK CONSIDERED THE BEST CORNER IN THE LEAGUE!!!!!